I think I get what you mean.. The world is F****d and people dont realise if they have no grounding and no soul they will surely suffer. People need to prepare for all sorts of things (mostly man made) One site I founfd which seems to spell things out pretty well is by a guy called IAn Crane i think its just www.ian r crane.com Ohsolo

Watched it, was pretty entertaning, thanks. xD The only problem is ofcourse that the people who need to suck it up most will probobly not even consider watching it.

^ you have a point... but that's simply because the reason given for watching the video is faulty- With regards to the premise that "religion is the real terrorism ", i find that statement quite absurd and contradictory. In reference to Christian doctrine.. the one of my religion, it makes no sense to say that it is an anti-peace doctrine. The backbone of Christian religion is the supreme virtue " love" - ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself- Luke 10:27. . Our faith is founded upon love. Referring to statement about prophecy that " insane people want to come through"' or as you are implying- are trying to make come through, i find yet another error. Indeed, Christians watch as the world endures hard times and only wishes for its peace- which of course will only be officially realized when Jesus comes. We already acknowledge that we have no power with regards to time control or prophecy control... so to say that in itself is flawed. However, because we know the Prophesies will be fulfilled and that Jesus Christ will come again in glory.. we seek to teach others about Him and the Word of God- Missionaries go to impoverished countries to help them with their struggles and to teach them the Word of God. Finally , "There is no knowledge out there to maintain peace" that;s another laughable statement. Some may argue that the Old Testament is filled with death and war etc, all "ordained by God" as some like to put it, however, what must be notes is that this war was centered around the people of God... who as it were, failed to do His will. The God of the Old Testament ( the true eternal and living God)- wanted peace from the beginning of the earth- however, because of Man's corrupt nature, war and death came into the world. Hence, the Old testament is an account of how man's sinful ways affected him. In the New testament, we learn about Jesus Christ who prehaced against religiosity and focused more on spirituality. he taught others to love each other, and to help one another- take for example the Good Samaritan, who was not a member of the "chosen race"- but a man who held beliefs contrary to that of Jesus' people- the Jews, yet, he helped a Jew and showed love to Him; Jesus shows us that regardless of religious background or affiliation, it is necessary to show love to one another and help one another. If we all were to love one another and help one another, then peace would not be far from this world. In fact, the Bible itself shows us how peace becomes disrupted ( in the Old Testament) and then Jesus Christ and the writers of the Gospels and Epistles, teach us the spiritual peace on earth good will to men, oneness with God and the path to eternal rest in heaven. I wish you all peace. If you seek God you will find him- not through scientific reasoning or calculations . But if you seek him with all your heart soul and mind, He will not be far from you. However, if you seek to disapprove his existence, that too can be done. You can seek to find answers that will give you what you want. oh and umm PS why are you trying to fulfill prophecies * at least read the bold if you don't care for the whole thing St Paul said in 2 Timothy 3: But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. 6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone. and now I must follow my instruction You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, 11 persecutions, sufferings—what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them. 12 In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, 15 and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. I do wish you peace and that you may find the real Truth, instead of follow those so-called intellectuals who depend solely on worldly knowledge to comfort their own confusion. There is a lot more knowledge to be gained that that which is of earth. if you seek to be of this world and maintain your beliefs in materialism and a finite life- go ahead. But I urge you to look beyond such shallow thinking and liberate your minds from such constricting thoughts which present a bleak picture of Christianity. Christianity promotes peace and love through Jesus Christ our Lord- we are not fanatics who try to fulfill prophecies.

Just got 2 things I wanna ask you. If you look back to the christening of people through the ages, was this done through murder and bruteforce or through love ? If you feel the need to look it up on the local library, please do so (: How does the whole millions of year old dinosaur bones and whole evolution thingy fit in to this for you ?

so now you're looking at christening.. umm "christening" means "bring to Christ" we use that term to refer to the naming f infants at their baptism( that is if you practice baptism). But i think you are talking about the violence associated with the Church in the past, I have heard of and read of such violence already.. Why, even my own region ( The Caribbean-West Indies) is a product of Colonialism which was condoned by the Pope at that time ( and I am by no means attacking the Catholic church in this instance). During that time violence was used to get Africans to my country and they were forced to convert and forsake their heritage. This occurred, because of the misconception that slavery is "right" - according to the Bible, or that a "Crusade" in the name of Christ; was justified. But i humbly admit that such violence was incorrect and although it was advocated by Christians, it was totally against Christian beliefs - In the Beatitudes Jesus Christ said " Blessed are the peacemakers" moreover, when he was being captured, he said " my war is not on earth nor is my army on earth"- He told his disciples to put down their swords ..( that was a general paraphrase- you can turn to any of the Gospels( found in the Bible) to see the exact words. the exact words- Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."- John 18:36.. Thus Christians are supposed to fight!!!! Spiritual battles- not physical battles, we are supposed to be peacemakers. With regards to dinosaurs and evolution; In the Bible there are dinosaurs, not a whole list of every one that was created- because the Bible just said that" Let the waters teem with living creatures and let birds fly..... so God created the greater creatures of the sea and every living and ,living thing which the water teems( Genesis 1 vs 20- 23) would give you the whole thing, again i just paraphrased- If you don't have a Bible you can access one here. in Job 40:15–24, God describes to Job (who lived after the Flood) a great beast with which Job was familiar. This great animal, called “behemoth,” is described as “the chief of the ways of God,” perhaps the biggest land animal God had created. Impressively, he moved his tail like a cedar tree! Although some Bible commentaries say this may have been an elephant or hippopotamus, the description actually fits that of a dinosaur like Brachiosaurus. Elephants and hippos certainly do not have tails like cedar trees! (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/1999/11/05/dinosaurs-and-the-bible) http://www.biblegateway.com/ umm, ok evolution now, Creationist and Evolutionist, always have it out about evolution and creationism etc. We could go onnn and oonn on that one ... I am not too competent in this topic however. But I have done my fair share of research. We reject the idea that we evolved from monkeys - those animals have no real feelings- they rely solely on instinct- the human capacity to feel- our emotional core- is what separates us from the beast- sure there are some fairly smart monkey's and animals do appear to have "feelings" of some sort- But do you think a lion can really debate in his mind if killing a zebra is "wrong" or not, that is solely instinct... We however, (as far as I know) do not object to micro-evolution and the fact that humans and animals evolve according to their environment- I mean ti's quite evident- For example, compare myself to a white person, because of our physical characteristically and genes, I am better able to withstand heat because my my pigmentation) and he is better able to withstand cold weather - e.g because of his thin long nose.

Not only has wars and murders been put under the name of christ during the colonist time, but through earlier ages as well. The vikings were more or less slaughtered because they had different believes, in later years we see all kind of religious wars and disputes. So claiming christianity and other religions are for peacemaking, that's total bull, just look at history and it's so full of contradictions. Well, that might be, none the less is the age of those certain creatures not compatible with the bones we find these days. According to the bible the earth is a couple of thousands years old, that's debitable how old, I can agree, but the difference between a couple thousands and the million years old the dinosaur bones we find today is to huge to be debated. So there's a giant hole in the story told by the bible. Well, what differs between humans and other animals is that the human being got the frontal lobe in the brain who directs emotions and reason. Remove/"disconnect" this and we're no other then an average animal. This is what happens if a person gets to stressed, afraid, etc. Then the frontal lobe "disconnects" and we become animals who act out on instincts. This is a pretty certain sign that we have more incommon with ceveral monkey species then many religious like to think.

Well I already agree that Christians killed " In the name of Jesus"- history shows it, my region is a product of it.. but what I'm saying is that, that has nothing to do with Christian beliefs, rules etc. Those Christians with blood on their hands were wrong- NB that all churches don't have blood on their hands btw. The debate on dinosaurs and the age of the earth could go on and on... however, evolutionism is full of potholes and the Bible is flawless I will borrow from the source http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/1999/11/05/dinosaurs-and-the-bible Evolutionists claim that dinosaurs evolved over millions of years. They imagine that one kind of animal slowly changed over long periods of time to become a different kind of animal. For instance, they believe that amphibians changed into reptiles (including dinosaurs) by this gradual process. This would mean, of course, that there would have been millions of creatures during that time that would be “in between,” as amphibians evolved into reptiles. Evidence of these “transitional forms,” as they are called, should be abundant. However, many fossil experts admit that not one unquestionable transitional form between any group of creatures and another has been found anywhere. If dinosaurs evolved from amphibians, there should be, for example, fossil evidence of animals that are part dinosaur and part something else. However, there is no proof of this anywhere. In fact, if you go into any museum you will see fossils of dinosaurs that are 100% dinosaur, not something in between. There are no 25%, 50%, 75%, or even 99% dinosaurs—they are all 100% dinosaur! The Bible tells us that God created all of the land animals on the sixth day of creation. As dinosaurs were land animals, they must have been made on this day, alongside Adam and Eve, who were also created on Day Six (Genesis 1:24–31). If God designed and created dinosaurs, they would have been fully functional, designed to do what they were created for, and would have been 100% dinosaur. This fits exactly with the evidence from the fossil record. Evolutionists declare that no man ever lived alongside dinosaurs. The Bible, however, makes it plain that dinosaurs and people must have lived together. Actually, as we will soon see, there is a lot of evidence for this." e.g of the above statement where dinosaur and man coexisted can be found in the same Bible verse with Job! EDIT* forgot to show why the Bible makes sense same source as noted above* If you remove the evolutionary framework, get rid of the millions of years, and then take the Bible seriously, you will find an explanation that fits the facts and makes perfect sense: At the time of the Flood, many of the sea creatures died, but some survived. In addition, all of the land creatures outside the Ark died, but the representatives of all the kinds that survived on the Ark lived in the new world after the Flood. Those land animals (including dinosaurs) found the new world to be much different than the one before the Flood. Due to (1) competition for food that was no longer in abundance, (2) other catastrophes, (3) man killing for food (and perhaps for fun), and (4) the destruction of habitats, etc., many species of animals eventually died out. The group of animals we now call dinosaurs just happened to die out too. In fact, quite a number of animals become extinct each year. Extinction seems to be the rule in Earth history (not the formation of new types of animals as you would expect from evolution). Oh btw I forgot to thank you, I never ever questioned the million year thing. I always thought that that was correct. But you made me do some research and see the light!

Well, how can you say that there is evidence for man and dinosaur living alongside each other, there's a huge time gap between the oldest human or humanlike fossil found and the dinosaur fossils found. The oldest human fossil found is dated of the age of aprox 195,000 years old, that's nowhere near the dinosaur fossils which is ceveral million years old. At the same time there are found humanlike fossils who validate the theory of evolution, not the the original origin as Darwin thought, but with other monkey species. National Geographic There are ceveral flaws in the biblical history, and the more fossils we find, the bigger the holes gets in the biblical theory of excistance.

^ the Word of God will endure forever and all that will come to pass will come to pass. Science is yet to prove this missing link- and this fossil theory itself has its problems. I admire scientist though and their efforts to find "truth" but , in the end of the day, trying to prove science as a subject with flawless principles is like making it a religion O.o. Well I have to go to church now though, so I do hope you enjoy the rest of your day. I'll try my best under the guidance of the Holy Spirit and with the help of the Holy Word to address all of your future questions as best I can. Think on this; If you live as though there is a God and no after life, and indeed there is one, then you will have to face the God you reject, But if you accept God and follow his teachings of peace and love, and try to live a good life, and die, and there is no God, then,you have lost nothing. :)

@ Vybz we evolved from monkeys and technically we are monkeys, all animals have "feelings" animals can feel, fear, doubt, sorrow, happiness, anger, hate. The only big difference between humans and other animals is our intellect. And all lifeforms have the same basic molecules and atoms, why do you think some animals and humans are born with certain mutations "without radioactivity of course". It's sudden changes in the body. One adepts to survive, that's what evolution is about."alongside Adam and Eve" and yet again, humanity wouldn't have existed since the dinosaurs were superior. The bible talks against incest but the bible preaches incest in the creation, Adam and eve would have to "force their kids" to reproduce with each-other. The bible isn't flawless, it's written by men, not god. Dinosaurs and humans DID NOT coexist, believing that is like believing one can breathe under water if you tie a plastic-bag around your head. Your bible may preach of peace, but the only reason it preaches peace is to get supporters, the mass agony and destruction it brings are far worse than the comfort and relief, and why is it so that the poorest people or those in prison or druggies are the most religious? The animals on the ark would have killed eachother, and the flood theory is just a children story, much of what's told in the bible are children stories, the only difference between them and modern is that kids doesn't believe in them nowadays. Would it be right to believe in magic because one saw the harry potter movies and saw it with their own eyes? answer no and you could change the word movies with books and voila change it to the bible. It's a biiig gap between the old testament and the new, the new was written several hundred years after the Christ was born and it was made to fill the gaps of the old. The only thing you use as proof are what's in the gospels, what are gospels? music, lyrics of divinity. It isn't truth. To bind humanity to pipe dreams, fantasy and nonsense, yet you try to prove it right with the most crazy ass mental theories. Religion was used in the medieval era to recruit soldiers who were strong because of their faith. You preach of Christianity as it makes sense, if it makes so much sense, why are then the smartest people in the world atheists? Einstein was not religious, Galleleo was not either, not even the founding fathers. I think it was John Adams that said that religion shouldn't be taught in schools, but still the church took control and did what they desired. To be honest, you're not smart for defending your beliefs, it just proves how brainwashed you have been by it. And also psychologists agree that even if a big population believes something, it could still be a mental ilness/ delusions. Scientist agrees that dinosaurs and men did not live at the same time! They approved the evolution theory! And also they are the ones keeping you alive with medications or surgeries if you need it. If you were shot in a vital area, one wouldn't be saved by praying to god but by going to the hospital. Why? Because praying to thin air doesn't help anyone. "I always thought that that was correct. But you made me do some research and see the light!" What light? Behind the veil you will not rip away lies the darkest of all your beliefs, all the corruption in the bible, all the insane oppositions. The problem is that you wish for the end of times so you could be with your invisible friend, and you see, that's the problem, that inspires "good" people to do bad things. You wish for mass destruction and mass death, before you could get past the neurological disorder that is religion. **EDIT** "Think on this; If you live as though there is a God and no after life, and indeed there is one, then you will have to face the God you reject, But if you accept God and follow his teachings of peace and love, and try to live a good life, and die, and there is no God, then,you have lost nothing. :) " that's not the right way of thinking, chosing religion cause one thinks "I'll get punished if i am wrong" is wrong. And god is about forgiveness, one doesn't have to believe in him to be a god human, one doesn't need to believe in him to get access to heaven, nothing in the bible says that. You deny other god's when "god" himself in the bible says, put no other god in-front of me, which for you "proves" that your god wouldn't be the only one.

I haven't left as yet, I will in two mins I'd like to address your last statement. God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that who so ever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 O.o God doesn't say to believe??? You misinterpret the Bible so well! I will address your other arguments when I get back home! Till then, peace be with you too :). I'll pray for you at church. God says to bless those who persecute you :) and even though you call me "insane". I still think you're worth God's time. bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. Luke 6:28.

That's why i like the satanism much better than christianity in anyway, when your priests abuse children it's "okay" but if some other did it, it's straight to the gallows. The Nine Satanic Statements The Nine Satanic Statements outline what "Satan" represents in the Church of Satan: Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence. **EDIT** one other thing, satan means "one who questions/opposer" so he questioned god and got sent to hell. So in that way, god is an evil dictator who has no other views than to the tip of his nose, sounds alot like those who wrote the "holy" books Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years. The Nine Satanic Sins Stupidity Pretentiousness Solipsism Self-deceit Herd Conformity Lack of Perspective Forgetfulness of Past Orthodoxies Counterproductive Pride Lack of Aesthetics The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them. When in another's lair, show them respect or else do not go there. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat them cruelly and without mercy. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and they cry out to be relieved. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself. Do not harm little children. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask them to stop. If they don’t stop, destroy them.

^ ok. I already know about Satanism, I've researched it and spoken to a few Satanist before. Anyway... jut got back from church and ironically the priest spoke about being spiritually aware. He said that if you are not spiritually aware then you will be ale to see or experience spiritual things. Enough said. It's Sunday and I will spend the rest of my day in rest quietness, preparing to do the Lord's work, and praying. Enjoy the rest of your day. I'll talk to you later.

actually we didnt evolve from monkeys :) they are our closest realitives and we share 99.8% of the same dna but the whole "we came from monkeys" things is overly exaggerated. we actually were decents from fish as crazy as it seems because while humans are in the embroyic stage, you can clearly see that there are slits where our ears soon developed to be at, which were considered to be like gills also Darwin did not say we evolved from monkeys, he simply said that all species came from a common ancestry on the tree of life.

exactly in other words, human are monkeys. the only reason we call ourselves humans is because of our arrogance, most religious don't say human is an animal, they think we are the world and that humans are so much more worth than animals. Why all this urge to set price tags on everything? You don't share 100% DNA with your mother either, that doesn't mean you didn't come from her.

Umm not sure about this! where does this satanist stuff stand against the Hollie Grieg stuff Details of that can be found on UK column website right hand side near the bottom called justice for Hollie. This is not havin a go at your beliefs Just trying to sort of get my head round things as there is so much stuff out there. Personally always felt that if you try and live a good life and treat people as you would expect to be treated you will be ok but unfortunately that seems to lead to you getting screwed and being honest with people seems like a charter to become invisible or a non being who is ignored and despised. As always the hardest people to be honest to are ourselves and for some of us that comes as a real shock when you embrace that. (does that make sense or am i rambling) Yep Im rambling

Well im not a believer, im an atheist, and atheists are actually the biggest minority in the US. I support satanism rather than Christianity and no satanism has nothing to do with sacrificing people or blood spill

"The problem is that you wish for the end of times so you could be with your invisible friend, and you see, that's the problem, that inspires "good" people to do bad things. You wish for mass destruction and mass death, before you could get past the neurological disorder that is religion." I'm back xD. Anyway, I don't understand how you can say that I wish for "mass destruction and mass death" - when Christianity in it's purest form, stand upon the words of Jesus Christ " Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself." which is - the words that All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments. - Matthew 22:37-40 You say that the smartest people are atheist; being smart doesn't make you spiritual. In fact, being an intellectual can sometimes cloud one's ability to look beyond this world and constrict oneself to living an empty materialistic life. Jesus Christ said "Don’t be proud, become like children.” He did say essentially that in Matthew 18:3, “Truly, I say to you, unless you turn and become like children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” In order to come to a belief in God one must humble oneself, and accept God's truth! Note well, not only believers in Christ will be in heaven, but all those young ones, those little children will be with God as well,where there will be no more sorrow but life everlasting. Where is the hope for the dead and for the living??? Do you know that without a belief in God, you end the life of your loved ones, and the possibility of finding comfort after they die? You say that religion causes people to live in fear... which is false once again!. Because of my faith in Jesus Christ. I know that I have nothing to fear when I die because Jesus said "whoever lives and believes in me will never die"- John 11:26 It is not a matter of using God as a crutch as many would love to believe, but we Christians walk with God and trust in his Will for our lives. In doing so we carry out his work for us,by spreading the gospel and love of Christ Jesus our Lord! Bill Mahers, is what he is, a joker- you can choose to listen to a joker, such as himself, or all of the intellectuals in the world, who as you know will all die and become dust and ashes.. or you can follow Christ who overcame death and all the misery of the world, and who wants to offer mankind that same triumph - over death,sin, sorrow, pain and sickness; whose message lives on to today and will never be silenced. peace be with you :) I will continue to pray that you too see the light, and that you will find comfort in things above and not things here on earth ; If you open your heart to God and truly trust and believe in him,you will hear his voice and come to understand his truth! I also pray that you will delve more deeply into Christianity and look in the Bible, to see what it really is and what it is about! If any of you have any other questions or queries with regard to Christianity, the Bible etc, I will do my best to answer your questions! Once again: Peace be with you all!

He is a joker YES but a clever one! And Christianity, Islam etc. Has all in common, The only thing is that you christians take away all the slaughter from the bible, i just say watch the damn documentary and "don't kill or steal" was laws way before jesus "arrived" you even believe dinosaurs and humans coexisted and that a boat fit all the animals in the world and the animals and humans survived without food and didn't eat eachother. it's complete nonsense, i find comfort, i have had lots of death in my family the only thing church did was bringing me more sorrow. If i die i don't want to be put in a grave, i'd rather be burnt and threw on some random spot. Being reminded that who you loved are dead only makes u sad. If you can't comprehend reality without religion you are pretty weak mentally. All the people in the bible were humans, nothing is written by god, if some said they had the words of god today you wouldn't believe them, and that's the difference, you believe in people with schizophrenia that lived a long time ago, but you wouldn't believe them today. Nothing makes you spiritual it's physically impossible, one cannot live without the vital organs and without anything to hold the vital organs they cannot be there, a soul just represents ones inner "mental". God cannot exist, everything existing is made up on either Matter or Energy and god is neither therefore he can't exist. And if you believe in god you have to believe in the devil because it's a part of the story isn't it "one of the angels rebelling upon god"? You believe in simple nonsense trying to bind humanity to fairy tales and lies. The story of christ isn't even real it's just stolen! The Egyptian Mythology had the same story "born by a virgin, killed in public, raised from the dead" the exact same story, and another mythology before that again, you believe in what's copied from old mythologies, nothing more than what you like to think yourselves. end of discussion I will never be tolerant for religion or it's believers. I will never believe in a peaceful world.